With patch 8.3, Corruption will generally be more important than the class at most levels of play. If you have good Corruption you can do good damage. If you want to know if you should play Ret the answer is if you enjoy Ret more than another spec you should play Ret.

Ret still maintains strong Burst damage during Avenging Wrath/Crusade. Cleave is mostly non-existent. AoE is very strong but does come at the cost of our Single Target/Priority Target damage.

In Mythic+ Ret is more than capable of providing enough damage and utility to do high keys(20+). Community perception unfortunately puts us less favorable compared to Demon Hunters and Rogues.


What Talents should I use in for now?

We strongly advise that you continue to sim different talent combinations on Raidbots Top Gear. You will see Execution Sentence come up as a top choice more often and it is good to use. Zeal is good alternative for AoE and frequent target swaps. Consecration can very marginally pull ahead of Wake of Ashes in your sims but it is a very small difference. You can feel free to use Wake of Ashes and also not worry about mobs moving out of Consecration. Inquisition and Crusade are both very competitive.

Why do I see sims/people using Visions of Perfection and Crusade?

Crusade + Visions can be very power if there is a proc while Crusade is already active. It is possible for it to proc outside of Crusade and building stacks is very slow unless you already have 5HP and/or Wake of Ashes off of cooldown. It has the highest and lowest DPS potential. Generally we suggest not to use it on progress due to the inconsistency but ultimately you can play whatever you want or just have fun on Farm with it.

Which Potions should I use?

Potion of Unbridled Fury is a very good all around potion. Potion of Empowered Proximity is good if you can sustain at least 4 targets for the full duration. For more information on the potions, please consult the guides posted at the end of this FAQ. To sim potions yourself add the contents of this Pastebin to your Raidbots profile in the Advanced tab.

What are the best races for Alliance and Horde?

Races are a very insignificant portion of DPS. Play what you enjoy staring at. To sim races yourself add the contents of this Pastebin to your Raidbots profile in the Advanced tab.

What Talents/Gear/Traits do I want for PvP?

Please visit the #pvp-faq channel for more assistance.


What is the Rotation?

Please consult one of the guides at the bottom of this FAQ to view in-depth Rotation information.

Does my rotation change with Azerite Essences?

Skeletor has written a small overview of how you should play around Essences in the following link: Azerite Essences

Do I use Divine Storm on 2 Targets now?

Divine Storm is a DPS increase on 2 Targets. The exception to this is when you use Righteous Verdict which requires 3. If you find yourself using Divine Storm often you should switch to Zeal. If there is a High Priority Target that needs to die ASAP you should use Templar's Verdict.

How do I use Empyrean Power?

Just like any other spender. Use it before Templar’s Verdict unless the Judgment debuff is active on your target. You can use it sooner if mobs are going to die before your next spender.


How much Corruption should I have at most?

39 for progress in most scenarios. In some cases you may choose to go higher in progress if you need the additional DPS and can avoid dying.

Which Corruption for Single Target?

Infinite Stars, Echoing Void, and Twisted Appendage for pure damage. Gushing Wound is the most efficient for stacking multiple traits.

Which Corruption for AoE?

Ineffable Truth, Twilight Devastation, and Echoing Void.

Does Corruption stack?

Yes. All Corruption does stack.

Is there a macro to target The Thing from Beyond?

No. It can only be targeted via mouse or tab-target.


How do I use this Trinket?

Skeletor covers Trinket usage with a few simple rules below.

Trinket Usage

Which is the best weapon enchant?

Deadly, Quick, Masterful, Versatile Navigation, and Force Multiplier are all close to each other. Sim it, as usual.

How do I sim my Azerite/Gear/Trinkets/Gems/Enchants/Essences?

Use Raidbots. A written guide on how to do so for RaidBots here: Google Doc Guide or a video guide by Thete here Video Guide.

Are there any secondary stat breakpoints/caps worth targeting?


What is our stat priority? What about our Pawn string?

We do not have a stat priority. You should be simming gear choices to determine what provides the most DPS. Please see above question for more information.

Azerite Traits

Here you can find an estimated power ranking for Azerite armor pieces. Make sure to sim anyways, because some traits are less powerful once stacked multiple times.

Azerite Gear Ranking

General Good Traits

- Light's Decree (Duration does not stack, only damage per HP spent.)

- Avenger's Might (Mastery Stacks.)

- Relentless Inquisitor (Haste increase stacks. Max stacks and stacks gained do not stack.)

- Empyrean Power (Proc chance does not stack, only bonus damage to Divine Storm.)

- Expurgation (Good purely single target trait if you’re using Avenging Wrath).

- Heart of Darkness (Only Available from Ny’alotha. Stat increase stacks. Need 25 Corruption AFTER resistance.)

How do I spend my Titan Residuum?

Consider what pieces you have and what pieces you have access to.Most bosses in the Ny’alotha drop strong Azerite for each slot. You should aim to replace the lowest level Azerite you have that you did not get as a Boss drop or is from a boss you have not killed or do not plan on killing that week. If you do not yet have all 475+ Azerite you should buy a Random piece for your appropriate slot.

Rebdull over at Wowhead has an Azerite Gear String of the Titan Residuum Gear available and a small guide on how to sim them all:

Titan Residiuum Gear

If you have access to it, the Droptimizer module on Raidbots now also supports Azerite from Residuum Vendor.

Azerite Essence

What essences should I focus on getting?

Vision of Perfection, Worldvein Resonance, and Blood of the Enemy are strong Majors. Condensed Life Force is still strong but will require running Azshara’s Eternal Palace to acquire. Breath of the Dying, Memory of Lucid Dreams:, Conflict and Strife, and Purification Protocol are good Minor choices. To read more about them in particular, please consult any of the guides linked at the bottom of this FAQ


Below you can find a chart that shows the approximate value of available Trinkets. Be sure to sim your character as your results will not match exactly. A small selection is also offered below. Please note these all make use of Visions of Perfection in the Major slot for a reduced Avenging Wrath cooldown.

Trinket Ranking


Ashvane's Razor Coral

Azshara's Font of Power

Vial of Animated Blood

Corrupted Gladiator's Medallion/Corrupted Gladiator's Badge

Writhing Segment of Drest'agath


Vita-Charged Titanshard

Torment in a Jar(AoE)

Briny Barnacle

Humming Black Dragonscale

Peerless Alchemist Stone

Gorecrusted Butcher's Block

How do I use this Trinket?

Skeletor covers Trinket usage with a few simple rules below.

Trinket Usage

Can you sim the Titanshard set bonus?

Yes, Raidbots will sim the set bonus if both trinkets are equipped. Please note this only works in Ny’alotha which Raidbots will assume by default.

Why is the sim telling me to use 2 On-Use trinkets?

First thing to know is that once you use an On-Use Trinket is if you have a second On-Use Trinket equipped it will be put on a 20s cooldown.

Light’s Decree has made 2 On-Use Trinkets viable. Use your 1st Trinket with your 1st ability before Avenging Wrath/Crusade and use your 2nd Trinket once available during Avenging Wrath/Crusade.

This only applies to Trinkets that give stats. If one of the suggested Trinkets does direct damage it should be used 2nd. In the case of trinkets like Cyclotronic Blast it should be used OUTSIDE of Avenging Wrath/Crusade.


Skeletor has created a Mythic+ guide that covers common questions and concerns here: Mythic+ Guide

How do I sim for Mythic+?

On Raidbots change your "Fight Style" drop-down to "DungeonSlice (BETA)".

What Talents do I run?

Zeal/Hammer of Wrath/Wake of Ashes/Divine Purpose. These do NOT change based on weekly affixes.

What Essences do I run?

Vision of Perfection Major, and Memory of Lucid Dreams:, Purification Protocol, and Breath of the Dying as Minor.

What Trinkets do I run?

1 On-Use Stat trinket, preferably Vial of Animated Blood, and either 1 Passive trinket such as Gorecrusted Butcher's Block or a On-Use Damage trinket such as Razdunk's Big Red Button.

What and how much Corruption?

Echoing Void, Twilight Devastation, and Ineffable Truth are solid choices. In Mythic+ you should also stay at or below 39 corruption.

What Azerite do I want?

Light's Decree, Avenger's Might, and 1x Empyrean Power.

Addons/Weak Auras

Do you recommend any Rotation Helper addons?

We strongly recommend Hekili. It is based off of SimC. You should have Avenging Wrath/Crusade and Trinkets disabled from showing. You need to learn when to use them.


What is the best WeakAura package for Ret? Where do I find a WeakAura for "InsertRequestHere"?

It is personal preference. There is no best. Search through the available uploads on Wagio.io to find one that suits you. There is also a search bar on the top if you want to look for something specific.


These should be your go to resource for more in-depth information. Basics will be covered here in the FAQ, but more information will be found in the following guides. For example, if you have specific questions regarding your rotation you can visit one of these guides and go to the "Rotation" or "Priority System" section to learn more.

Skeletor’s Guide

Wowhead Guide by Rebdull

All guides above are approved by us and you can pick whichever you want.

There is more information above! Please make sure to scroll up to view other sections of the FAQ.

Updated as of 02/02/2020